ANTI- AGING with Dr. Ben Johnson Osmosis Skincare | Get YOUNGER skin, ALCOHOL DENAT + NEW PRODUCTS
welcome back to my channel everybody at Playa with skin beautiful accent I am so thrilled because we have a very special guest today dr. Ben Johnson is here with us from osmosis and do you so welcome so we are so excited to have you so thank you good so I love osmosis when we actually started our business osmosis was the first product line we brought on very in dear to my heart because I founded it – changing my skin and it’s given me the ability to help so many people change theirs as well that’s fantastic yeah so what’s really great is like for me and I know my clients are very similar I spent years using really aggressive products with a lot of acids and I just thought that was the right thing to do oh it looked great for a few months but then you know years went by and my skin was getting more red more irritated more inflamed and then I got introduced to osmosis and the concept is so different at first I was like this is not going to work okay there is nothing about it it’s not a think that way because it’s so you know different from what they were taught in school yes yep or online can you kind of explain to people who don’t understand or even know about osmosis like the concept behind the formulations how you’re able to treat the skin differently than really any other brand out there yeah absolutely so I think you know it first started with me with osmosis is I came from an industry where I’ve done another brand that was called cosmetics you know as many many years ago and I was learning through my own experience with that brand what the limitations in skincare were so when I started to sit down and put together the ideas of what needed to be done to transform the industry I came across a few key roadblocks to effective skincare regimens and you know not meaning to bash a whole series of brands what say this but there are some basic concepts that need to be understood and addressed in order to sell the problem the first and foremost and I didn’t learn this one when I first formulated it but the first thing I would tell people is the vast majority of skin conditions come from the inside and so you have to address your health you have to address the imbalances your skin oftentimes is a tell it actually provides a roadmap to tell you hey look at this area of your body hey look at this type of toxicity exposure and it took me about 20 years to sort of gather that knowledge and put it together really important part of that broad so we call osmosis a holistic medical brand because I’m a physician you know I do think of things in a scientific way but I took a big leap towards the holistic you know Eastern medicine are you Vedic medicine and all these different philosophies to try to understand you know who’s got it right like none no one has a corner on the market and unfortunately what’s happened in skincare czar the pharmaceutical industry has sort of corrupted the medical system and they’re not necessarily do it looks best for your health which is what I believe you need for you so baseline on that and then it was a matter of we’ll wait what’s the other problem here the average skincare line gets two to five percent penetration oh if you’re not getting the ingredients into the skin you’re not going to get a significant results unless the only thing you’re looking to do is plump the surface which is what a lot of friends choose since they don’t choose delivery system so we focus on delivery system and then the third thing I would say is making sure the ingredient choices I made were the most potent most bioavailable ingredients possible and you know for a lot of people they don’t understand what that means I guess you know the best example would be like I’m a lot of retinols are not actually good collagen stimulators they’re bringing damage then they do good and same thing could be with alpha hydroxy acids so the idea here is if your skin can if you can build up the strength of your skin and you can build up the what is what declines with aging you can actually reverse aging permanently so so that’s been the goal and the premise behind the formulations and super excited about the results that have happening me too personally speaking and actually you brought up something that is actually I would love to touch on a little bit I get a lot of questions when people are like you know they show me an ingredient deck from you know I’m just going to throw it from Target and they’re like you know here XYZ is all the way at the top but in the one you have you know it’s kind of scattered and I always try to explain that if you don’t have a delivery system yes you do have to have more of a certain ingredient up higher but it with medical like you know a lot of things are different on the ingredient deck because it’s in a complete formulation it’s not just you know the first two things matter can you kind of speak to that at all yes right and on your customer base that concentration matters if you don’t have a delivery system it’s one of the key aspects of enhancing penetration it’s actually one of the strategies I employ but sometimes something can be overly like not everything and not every case is more better and myself well it’s a it’s a definitely a balance and you have to try to understand it and there is true to the fact that once you get to a certain layer on the ingredient deck you’re gonna reach that layer where everything is 1% or less and once we hit that zone our guidelines tell us we can put any order we want so sometimes you can be tricked by an ingredient deck and I will be honest and then I’ve been in I’ve been formulating skimpier King here for 20 years no one has ever come to me and analyzed my label to see if I’m listing it properly so because I know that I know all the other formulators know that there’s a lot of cheating going on animals – right no one’s acting that and so for this reason I would say yeah I know like one of the questions you sent to me prior to this was about like the use of alcohol why would you do that and I do want to discuss those concern you and your customer race but also yeah we we definitely well I’ll give you one example of an ingredient that I use way more than the industry rekha the you know industry recommended amount chlorella vulgaris so chlorella has this amazing ability in the skin to generate collagen and elastin it’s a powerful antioxidant it protects you from UVB it stimulates new blood vessel formation which is such an important part of my view of what you need to do and and so I use a man three times the industry recommended amount mm-hmm because I know chlorella is also somewhat delicate it’s gonna complain a little bit with time and so sometimes people may order my serums and they’ll notice like my a serums have a little bit of a green tent in the beginning juice and it gets me yellow over time well that is your chlorella losing a little bit of its life over time but it’s green because I used a lot of it in the beginning exactly and then you have alcohol so you’ll sees in some of my products you would mentioned replenish the antioxidant serum and what that’s about is all you solubility so one of the things that I sort of put it built into my business model was that I wanted to make sure that I packed every serum and and I kind of when I formulate I think okay this is my collagen elastin serum right my DNA wound healing serum this is my oxidation healing serum and so I try to put the ingredients in there that all are helping each other in that category so for example in the a serum well let me address the alcohol so when you pack a ingredient deck so full there’s a solubility problem you know the chemists telling me my formulas are you’re impossible they’re the most expensive formulas they make at these huge labs are telling me because I’m putting in very expensive ingredients like our delivery system it’s phosphatidylcholine it’s it’s it’s one of the like if you put it in the category of expensive ingredients its way up at the top primarily because I have to use a therapeutic dose of income I’m using you know between six and ten percent of this liposomes component because that’s what you need to really make it effective so the alcohol is at almost always less than 1% off the top of my head with replenish I’m pretty sure it’s one or percent or below and and the reason why that’s important is because where alcohol gets a bad name and skincare is its tendency to strip lipids and cause the skin to dehydrate mm-hmm but what what’s misunderstood about it is when I put it in a serum and you know let’s say 0.
5% first of all there’s an evaporation effect during formulation alcohol you know dissipates out of solution very quickly second of all when you apply a halt to your face it does not damage the lipid it does not remove them unless it’s a toner so it was all toners that led to this whole thing where people would take alcohol wipe their face strip their face up into protective lip and it’s dehydrated that does not happen with these serums it’s not part of the effect and so yeah III specifically formulated my product so nothing in their form and sometimes that’s confusing people because they’re like wait alcohol yes in its 50% or 30% alcohol when wiped on the face will remove some of that but not at point five percent right and that’s what I love too is I always try and remind people like it online there are clinical studies and then you can kind of really see where these I mean truths yes but kind of a lot of actual things kind of get misleading as well so tons of studies if anybody wants to jump online and really you know break it down for themselves and you know you and you may have started this way but there are so many skincare junkies I think they like to call themselves right they’re just they there they are interested they they do their research and sometimes I’ll come across a layperson who knows more than most of the institution’s I know and so I know that’s a focus for you and that’s you provide a great service but yeah the here’s what I would say about the studies and I guess I would tell you one of my niches is that I can look at a study and tell you how they got there and why it’s misleading whereas what’s a good example okay so there was this retinoic acid some of your clients probably use retin-a right there was this retin-a study and it was done by a dermatologist and it had a very large population of users and what they showed is that pigmentation decline because retin-a poisons your melanocytes is not a good thing they showed wrinkles got better because retinas thickens your epidermis with damage it’s not that it makes your skin younger and skip to the one highlight they didn’t mention there in the in the discussion which was that it thinned the dermis sorry it thinned the dermis by 18% over here is that oh my god why aren’t you discussing that piece so so they said here’s your proof you know we don’t think you know that the dermal thinning is significant I’m like hmm dermal teaming is what causes wrinkles sometimes it’s obvious like that sometimes it’s the subtleties but where I made my niches I would look at an ingredient like there might be an ingredient out there let’s just pretend that someone renamed a steroid as beauty dot whatever so then that they say oh hey guess what we have this new ingredient beauty dot and when you put it on your face your redness goes down and all the formulators you’d be like Lu redness goes down for me I go why did the redness go down once the mechanism of action is it harming the skin because we know a steroid will reduce redness but it’s miracle for you right these ways that I think I took my expertise and applied it to the you know the formula strategy yeah and I actually think I saw that study too where after a year it started to show change in the skin and they actually compared right now to hide in that study if it’s the same one I read and the right now to hide showing a difference and a remarkable improved difference in the skin after I think it was like three or six months so I think actually found that which was a really and I’m like why are people talking about this like they’re obviously showing like retinaldehyde is so much better than retina but yeah it’s supposed to be great because you know where’s this in this marketing world where the louder the voice and usually that’s gonna be the larger the company mmm-hmm they don’t want to spend retinaldehyde is the most expensive vitamin a you can buy it’s super unstable so if you don’t have a strategy to stabilize it it’s not even ingredient you should put in your products right so I think you know it’s out a unique path retinaldehyde believe it there’s this the inventor of retinoic acid to a vendor retin-a wanted to use r an aldehyde as the retin-a that we would all be using today but the stability issue is what stopped him and so we have we’re really fortunate to have a stable nurse now that’s good to know that’s fun well awesome I learn something new so one pirata that obviously is one of our top-selling products and one product that like our no matter what it we’re trying to treat whether it’s pigment acne texture pores it just is able to really help so many different skin types skin issues is rescue and rescue has a really unique ingredient in this product that I don’t think I’ve seen anywhere else I don’t know if anybody else so could you kind of tell us about rescue and this ingredient and how its able to really you know treat so many different issues well 30 second story on it because I did not just like go hmm that would be something interesting to make you know this has a old history you know I’m a big believer everything happens for a reason and I got introduced to a doctor who had studied this ingredient now this ingredient kind of has two names the ingredient to the world is typically known as try oxy hmm cuz try out saline is not in the registries of international agencies we actually had to create our own inky name so what they look for label they’ll see ozone eyes ethyl only eight but it’s excellent so if they google trioxane they’ll see oh this pharmaceutical company said it has this may will help cancer may help this may help that we found it to be very beneficial to the immune cells of the body and what makes it unique is that it’s a stable oxygen so it’s three oxygens in a triangle and you know we make it through this unique process in my lab in Florida and yeah and the gentleman who started the process he’s my partner he since passed but his his widow is my partner now and and so we’re making it and yes so how does it work so it’s patented this is one of the reasons no one else has it but so the way that it works is twofold the oxygen oxidative damage is the main reason that your skin ages in the Sun okay right you have oxygen your face the Sun hits it it turns into this free radical and it goes around damaging cells well that is a very powerful force that force and what we learned was in order to repair that level of force you need the same power of oxygen only the repair version so this is going in and repairing the oxidative damage in the skin in a permanent way which is really cool because you know it’s not and let me differentiate that from an antioxidant Ilana okay I worry about free radicals – dr.
Johnson that’s why I use antioxidants well yes okay antioxidants are going to help you especially at that peak moment when let’s say you’re out in the Sun for more than ten minutes and starting to the free radicals are starting to spin up yes it can help minimize the damage but image still occurs what’s unique about trioxane and rescue is that that goes in and it repairs that damage so you do see texture changes you do see poor changes you do see inflammation changes and and wouldn’t healing like it’s yummy I know that makes age spots disappear and a permit Wagner but then the other side of it is immune boosting and this is where in rosacea and some of these other conditions it will actually go in and help the skin fight bacteria and pathogens the skin sort of ramped up its repair ability so you’ve got some great features in it and it’s one of my favorite products for sure yeah it’s actually one of mine to rescue and calm are my favorite products will see a favorite products is in the recipe your personal favorite or like out of your line like what’s like you’re going traveling and you can take one thing and don’t say I want to stare I’m like what broad yeah you know it’s kind of that old thing where it’s like how do you I have four children that are my favorites which is renew a catalyst rescue and stem factor you know these are the serums that I think everybody over 40 will benefit from each of them having their own role and age reversal within that group I’m gonna tell you that I think I think we’re new is that one I’m going to hold on to most and I’ll give you sort of the quick five things that does that may get sort of universal universally beneficial and I say renew you said calm so I just want to differentiate for people who don’t know calm is the lowest of the AE serums it’s for a little bit more sensitive skin which you must have and then renew is the you know cranked out version that you might have to work your skin up to that people with sensitive skin you should not jump into what it’s doing is sort of this five fold process number one it’s got the this liposomal ret – now the hide being delivered so it’s the best collagen stimulator I know it’s the most safe collagen stimulator it’s the the least irritating it is it just has every quality you would want in a vitamin A a lot of people think oh I want that strong vitamin A that makes me peel but when you’re peeling your Sun sensitizing you’re aging faster you’re hydrating so number one it has that number two it’s got a barrier repair quality because the material I use in that serum to deliver better is called phosphatidylcholine liposome material it’s what your cell walls are made of so it has that that benefit of being a repair nutrient but the cool thing is it’s also going to hold hydration into your skin it’s gonna protect you from UVB – some really cool property so that’s phase two of that particular serum phase three is the nutritional component so this is the part where I want to tell your viewers that the number one reason why your skin declines in its different qualities I don’t even like to use the word aging because in many ways it’s so reversible and we think aging is being you’re done you’re ten years later it’s too bad for you you know but no in fact the main cause of Aging is a decline in the food supply a decline in skin circulation so we have within that formula ingredients that permanently increase new blood vessel activity that dilate your existing blood vessels to make them feed the area better and that is quality tree oh my gosh am I gonna have remember quality for you heard a couple of combined qualities it has a weight let me think there’s one more real important component of it yes the other real component component of it so I only got two for darn it okay the multi multi-pronged approach so a lot of people think I’m just gonna buy that a serum as long as I get my retinol palmitate or my retinol my skin is getting what it needs and what I want to explain to people is it’s more complicated than that you know that I just talked to you about the circulation imagine the gym everyday and lifted weights but never a protein you wouldn’t build right right the skin is the same way I can push the collagen making button but if I don’t feed that process to a higher level the skin will always be limited by that and so what you see from that multi-pronged approach and I do have one more thing to say but when you see for that multi-pronged approach is that we are stimulating collagen and elastin from many unique holistic pathways nothing nothing you know harming the skin and that gets me that final phase which is we want to increase turnover without exfoliating and so we do that by feeding turnover so that is the secret sauce to that multi-pronged approach and that’s why I guess I would say for new is my favorite awesome I love it well and then actually to circle back I always tell people when I’m explaining the products like this is why you need this product I do always try to say like the the main ingredient and then I always say blitz and extremely nutritious formula and I know that word really speaks to so many people and then once they’re on it they’re like oh my gosh you’re right like my psyche within a few uses my skin just like feels butter it’s tight like I feel more hydrated so yeah absolutely like besides all the awesome like main ingredients like the nutrition and the products are outstanding you know our before and afters are some of the best in the industry and I think that’s because people just don’t know you know it’s tragedy you know I’m a general practitioner and you know so I hear and I you know we have dermatology clients I’m not going to say that’s the highest percentage of clients we have because they’re pretty fixated on a belief system you know what I want to tell people is it’s so hard you know they find people but like you thank goodness but it is so hard because there’s so many experts and you want to believe that the dermatologist has gotta figure it out when they say oh mrs.
Jones your skin’s ageing let’s shoot you with a laser you know they burn the bejesus out of that person’s face and yeah it’s tighter for a while while they heal like no long-term effect of that I think with it’s going to be coming out soon enough that we want some effect of these really aggressive procedures is not worth the the number of people who have permanent scarring so yeah there needs to be more education or more skin Beautiful’s out there so the next question we have is I mean of course we get so much great feedback for all the products but one in particular I wanted to bring up because our clientele that you know are going through menopause always email me like oh my gosh this has helped me so much with hot flashes I didn’t think anything to help me I know and look well dr.
Van Johnson somehow helped us ladies but tell me how is corner and relief elixir like helps hormones held like what is it doing but it’s actually helping this process well can I give because this is something right now that I am so fired up about if you can I give it like a one-minute sort of what you want okay because I just want a free explanation of what’s happening to women right now so women are going into early menopause and having menopausal symptoms both are in the same camp for me because of estrogen toxicity they get confused is they think it means they have too much estrogen I’m really happening is that when your body is so intelligent is getting exposed to estrogenic toxins it will lower your estrogen and as a result of that you will start to feel that imbalance between your where your estrogen should be and where your progesterone still is where your own still is so you can either have menopausal symptoms you can have heavy bleeding you can help symptoms like are things like fibroids endometriosis and PCOS mm-hmm you can you know get the typical hot flashes and waking up at 2:00 in the morning and all those things so I had to have a 2 prong approach just so you know skin defense is my estrogen toxin binder and that is really helping a lot of women with so many of those symptoms and then the crazy the crazy elixir hormone relief which I will do my best to explain to people and and it’s it’s just something where your intuition tells you I don’t understand what he’s saying but I know what’s right for me or you you know because this is one of those things actually maybe a lot of your customers understand energy medicine but here sort of summary of it everything in your body vibrates mm-hmm this is proven in quantum physics you’ll hear occasionally someone say no that’s crazy talk it is proven in quantum physics dive deep up and you will get that confirmation so then your next question is well how rapidly does it vibrate because how rapidly something vibrates determines its frequency and so everything in your body has its own signature frequency kind of like we all have our own signature fingerprint so your hormones are included in that category and when you start to become imbalanced what I learned through trial and error over many many years is that I can’t impart a frequency into water that mimics the vibrational rate estrogen progesterone testosterone and as a weight and because I can do that when you ingest it and I’m part you know hundreds of thousands of frequencies if not millions of frequencies into these formulas so that one you know five-pound seven o’clock creates a whole systemic sense of the hormone it is not the hormone will not change your blood levels skin defense can change your blood levels but hormone relief does not change levels so what it’s doing is giving your body the sensation of balance during a time when it’s not balanced so so if you have any women who say oh I tried to wear my own relief did nothing for me the reason why they have such a low level of estrogen and the one that they’re going to be most sensitive to it will definitely affect their libido positively it’ll definitely should affect fertility menstrual cycles all those things but if they don’t get any response that has been what I’ve recently learned is they need skin defense and they need to find quite a bit of toxicity usually three months work and try hormone relief again they’ll have a little bit more active estrogen and in that phase that we can excite their estrogen and give them a sensation but I’m glad to hear many of your clients really and it’s very safe early writing like I’m not a big fan of hormone supplementation because the research is clear it’s it’s carcinogenic makes cancer happen it crazes strokes heart attacks other side side challenges the nice thing about this elixir is it can’t over it doesn’t ever create too much you know you take a little pill or you rub some cream on your body and it’s just jumping in sort of semi randomly 90 bodies tiny and what’s nice about the elixir is it’s it’s just always there so the timing never matters you know all right yeah awesome so the elixirs have like the good vibes good vibrations but per bag so I also I have I get this question daily what are you up to behind the scenes what’s coming out this year we are ready for more can you give us any sneak peeks okay so the next product is less than two weeks away the product is called recovery mm-hmm is a wellness product but it is wellness product like nothing the world has seen in the aesthetic industry I’m so excited about it don’t even know about it oh my gosh I just finished my protocol so that I could personally attest to the changes and here’s the summary of what it does it is it is meant to be is meant to be multi-pronged benefit so I’m just going to list through the benefits it’s going to sound too good to be true by the end but that your clients come to go research and they’ll see most of the things I mentioned are in the research but what the one of the biggest things is not in the research is a special formula okay recovery put simply is an Omega Omega supplement it offers Omega 3 6 9 but more importantly it offers Omega 7 it is a blend of sea buckthorn seed oil sea buckthorn pulp oil and sea buckthorn fruit oil and that blend is very important in specific and it has some macadamia nut oil so people with nut allergies I’m not sure if they’ll be able to tolerate it what does it do when taken in the dosing I recommend which is pretty significant which is a tablespoon twice a day mm-hmm it will refill your fat pads of your face yes so reduce this is a epidemic in our country it is one of the more critical aging components like when you see someone and they do alike look what they look like at 30 look what they look like now the most telling thing that we don’t mentally know what it is but what we’re seeing is that CAD atrophy mm-hmm it happens rapidly if you’re a drinker it happens rapidly if you are a sugar holic I most of my fat pad attribute I think can be attributed to my sugar addiction so so I woke up one day and in where your fat pads are hidden by when you’re gained weight so a lot of America doesn’t even know they have a big fat pad issue because they haven’t done that hard work to get lean again you know it’s hard lose that weight by the way estrogen toxicity the main causes of women not being able to lose weight so you really want to address what we were talking about earlier was getting me relief but this recovery product okay let me just kind of go down the list okay it lowers cholesterol it lowers blood sugar it restores your probiotic population and I’m gonna get into that in a second because I do not believe in probiotics this is a prebiotic that feeds your probiotic population it reduces cardiovascular disease it is an anti-inflammatory oh my gosh it was noted as being reducing cancer risk and a whole host up I think colon cancer and some other cancers so health y/o improves mental focus but your Omega supplementation so it’s going to improve your skin health it’s going to reduce your pore size it’s going to reduce your wrinkles and this is actually where it’s super super exciting sorry super exciting because what I’ve learned in this process is 80% of the wrinkles that we see in our later years are caused by the loss of the volume of your fat pad and not by the lots of the volume of your dermis it’s a whole thing it’s crazy this product recovery will be coming out and you need about seven bottles on average and I’m saving one of my favorite outcomes and to be fair I have one tester on this but the way I work with my formulas is I usually go in knowing it’s going to work so my one tester is halfway through her protocol and her breasts are getting bigger so your first thought might be wait a minute all the women’s breasts get bigger if they just keep drinking oil all day not gaining weight remember seabuckthorn causes weight loss mmm and you know the total calorie count somewhere around 200 calories for the day of this oil but it’s so therapeutic for you I don’t even know that it could be associated with weight gain people should not be thinking of it under traditional caloric view but why do the breasts gain size because and it’s not everybody by the way it’s all women who lost a breast size in pregnancy their breasts made milk and when their breasts were making milk they were detoxing and the reason why you get fat pad atrophy in the first place is your fat cells are a detox organ and the more they have to detox face getting hit first and foremost the more you lose volume so what’s happening is there’s there’s fat pads in your arms and your legs that lose volume over time that’s why you’ll see you know 65 70 year-old people they have a lot of lats Disney loss but really what you’re seeing is the fat pad bar decline now I’m not talking about the loose fat that everybody hates that’s your Center as fat that doesn’t happen I’m talking about the marbled healthy fat that that inner lines your muscles mm-hmm no but shelf I know that sounds like a funny term coming from a doctor but if this will reinvigorate your butt shelf and it will enter the breasts it’s a lost size infest from having doctor pregnancy we’ll see that size come back to about 80% the face fat past same thing about me sad is the max restoration yes so this products coming out restore your probiotics restore your facial volume so excited I’m excited too so basically you’re telling me I don’t need to get facial filler anymore and I’m thinking from what you’re saying it should help with like crepey skin on the body or no yes you’re the area where I expect it to be and I haven’t done this clinic okay you know this testing or clinical yet it’s like you know that the one women are like why am I getting more knee wrinkles right on the knee right by the patella and it would be one of my theories you know yes there is some gravity effect but your skin holds up better than you think mm-hmm is this volume loss yes if you stopped working out and your muscles are atrophying that is part of it but it’s also the fat pad that gets lost in this so yes over this seven weeks you should see some improvement in your knee wriggling uh now depending on how lazy that person has been of course it may not be as dramatic as they hope mm-hmm and the older you are the longer this process takes perfect well I’m gonna just leave my order ready and get a couple cases so okay really quick I have to ask if somebody asked me what’s gonna ask it but I’m gonna ask anyway what are your thoughts on micro needling and I know what you’re gonna say and question somebody asked me to ask yours yes so I’m gonna speak from two perspectives huh I’m the esthetician perspective if you’re going in to get facials and they want to do a microneedle ink procedure on you let’s say once a month it’s not the end of the world to me I mean I I generally try to describe to people that what you’re doing is you’re creating a lot of little wounds and skin has to fix wounds it’s gonna preoccupy itself on wounds it’s not gonna be a cute itself on rejuvenation and you have to Sochi eight wound repair with rejuvenation because when I hurt my skin and then the skin fixes itself it didn’t get younger especially in my upper terminal layers because there’s also all shedding off anyway now you know what I believe in you already know is a slightly less aggressive gap that allows the penetration to go in better this is our tool called provide a pen but I’m gonna give you a little secret new tidbit that no one else knows so this provider pen allows for the penetration without the wounds so the skins not distracted it can focus on the rejuvenation that the ingredients generate but I am coming out also probably in the month of May a home tool for your customers so it is a level of provide a pan it’s that’s a professional treatment but a home tool to help because we just talked about how ingredients don’t penetrate very well and all their products they use and I know they’re not just binding osmosis although you should even with your other products this tool is going to improve your penetration gently it should be able to be well tolerated sensitive skin and it’s just meant to be so that every application of skincare you do you’ll enhance the penetration of those products by about 30% well that makes your dollar go a lot farther when you realize how few of them are really getting in and also just for warning you might find your skin gets irritated if the ingredients you’re using are not particularly great for the skin so choose your products wisely with the dude but I haven’t even come up with a name for it wait I I forgotten the name for it but yeah it’s launching in May and I would say we got instead of especially if you’re thinking about home micro-needling reconsider you know the same you started this conversation Lia by saying that you were using alpha hydroxy and retinols a lot and your skin just kept getting redder and redder mm-hmm it’s one of the things we’ve noticed with people who do home scrubs the more home scrubbing you do more and more your skin gets that way and I believe the same is true with micro needling the more you do home micro needling the more your skin is going to increase sensitivity and be less tolerant to the good stuff awesome well I like my cheeks hurt from smiling I’m so excited well thank you so much this was like such I don’t why I learned so much I know all of our subscribers are gonna learn so much too so thank you so much for taking time to be here today it was such a pleasure Thank You Leah